Comments on: Political Thoughts http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/ A crazy guy trying to follow God & his random ramblings! Tue, 03 Jan 2012 01:43:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Todd Porter http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1019 Todd Porter Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:43:12 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-1019 If you read my reference to Huckabee being on SNL you would see that I was making reference to the fact that they were mocking him and the fact that he had no chance to win. Sure it showed good humor on his part, but seriously he should have taken that as a wake up call and bowed out. I read the three article you linked and I don't see where Senator Obama was playing dirty politics like many of the other candidates have. In fact, I would compare the way he has run his campaign with the way Huckabee ran his for the most part. But of course, I probably have "fallen head over heals for him" like the media has. If you read my reference to Huckabee being on SNL you would see that I was making reference to the fact that they were mocking him and the fact that he had no chance to win. Sure it showed good humor on his part, but seriously he should have taken that as a wake up call and bowed out.

I read the three article you linked and I don’t see where Senator Obama was playing dirty politics like many of the other candidates have. In fact, I would compare the way he has run his campaign with the way Huckabee ran his for the most part. But of course, I probably have “fallen head over heals for him” like the media has.

]]> By: Derek http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1018 Derek Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:32:26 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-1018 'tis a fine line between believing so strongly in what you're running on and being "the fool," isn't it? Wonder how many people say that about Christians in general. Senator Obama may not be as cheap as Senator Clinton, but he's held his own within (not above) the fray as well: <a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/02/america/02campaign.php" rel="nofollow"><b>Clinton and Obama intensify attacks</b></a> <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=530948&in_page_id=1766&ito=1490" rel="nofollow"><b>Obama takes a swipe at 'old' Clinton to boost his chances in Mississippi</b></a> <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/11/dems.campaign/index.html?section=cnn_latest" rel="nofollow"><b> Obama camp questions Clinton's readiness to lead</b></a> Oh well--at least he's campaigning using his own words now, or at least hopefully giving credit where it's due to others. As for the SNL reference, you're welcome. How much does it have to do with anything? About as much as your referencing Governor Huckabee's appearance in the first place, which I gather was trying to reinforce the point about "wasting" his/the country's time. ’tis a fine line between believing so strongly in what you’re running on and being “the fool,” isn’t it? Wonder how many people say that about Christians in general.

Senator Obama may not be as cheap as Senator Clinton, but he’s held his own within (not above) the fray as well:

Clinton and Obama intensify attacks

Obama takes a swipe at ‘old’ Clinton to boost his chances in Mississippi

Obama camp questions Clinton’s readiness to lead

Oh well–at least he’s campaigning using his own words now, or at least hopefully giving credit where it’s due to others.

As for the SNL reference, you’re welcome. How much does it have to do with anything? About as much as your referencing Governor Huckabee’s appearance in the first place, which I gather was trying to reinforce the point about “wasting” his/the country’s time.

]]> By: Todd Porter http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1016 Todd Porter Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:54:24 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-1016 When I said "failed campaign" I was referring to the last week or so of the Republican primaries. And if he dug into his own personal finances for his campaign then he is a bigger fool for wasting money that could have been used for much better things than a losing effort at the end. Senator Obama has shown a lot of grace in his campaign and has done an exceptional job of staying above the fray. Hillary on the other hand has not. I never said anything about anyone "looking Presidential", I did say that I do not think that John McCain has what it takes to be President. I know that Senators Obama and Clinton have both been on SNL. Not sure what that has to do with anything, but thanks for telling me. When I said “failed campaign” I was referring to the last week or so of the Republican primaries. And if he dug into his own personal finances for his campaign then he is a bigger fool for wasting money that could have been used for much better things than a losing effort at the end.

Senator Obama has shown a lot of grace in his campaign and has done an exceptional job of staying above the fray. Hillary on the other hand has not.

I never said anything about anyone “looking Presidential”, I did say that I do not think that John McCain has what it takes to be President.

I know that Senators Obama and Clinton have both been on SNL. Not sure what that has to do with anything, but thanks for telling me.

]]> By: Derek http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1012 Derek Tue, 11 Mar 2008 04:36:49 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-1012 Governor Huckabee dug into his own personal finances for his campaign. Governor Huckabee stayed in the campaign because while he still had some chance, he did not want to take votes out of the hands of the voters, and he still wanted them to have their say. Governor Huckabee did not run a "failed campaign." He ran a campaign that wasn't given much of a chance to begin with barely a year ago and still managed to win several key primaries. Governor Huckabee campaigned and lost with grace, something that seems to have eluded both Senator Obama's and Senator Clinton's campaigns. Single-issue voting isn't a sign of narrow-mindedness. You may not be saying that, but unfortunately, that's a common criticism of people who do in fact have litmus-test issues. Oh, and by the way, not sure if you watch SNL, but Senators Obama and Clinton have both made appearances this year. As for looking "Presidential" so far during the past couple of months, I guess it's easy to overlook Senator McCain's quiet campaigning while his counterparts on the Democratic side mock each other in debates and rallies. At least Senator Clinton's got one thing right: the media sure have fallen head over heels for Senator Obama. Governor Huckabee dug into his own personal finances for his campaign.

Governor Huckabee stayed in the campaign because while he still had some chance, he did not want to take votes out of the hands of the voters, and he still wanted them to have their say.

Governor Huckabee did not run a “failed campaign.” He ran a campaign that wasn’t given much of a chance to begin with barely a year ago and still managed to win several key primaries.

Governor Huckabee campaigned and lost with grace, something that seems to have eluded both Senator Obama’s and Senator Clinton’s campaigns.

Single-issue voting isn’t a sign of narrow-mindedness. You may not be saying that, but unfortunately, that’s a common criticism of people who do in fact have litmus-test issues.

Oh, and by the way, not sure if you watch SNL, but Senators Obama and Clinton have both made appearances this year.

As for looking “Presidential” so far during the past couple of months, I guess it’s easy to overlook Senator McCain’s quiet campaigning while his counterparts on the Democratic side mock each other in debates and rallies.

At least Senator Clinton’s got one thing right: the media sure have fallen head over heels for Senator Obama.

]]> By: Todd Porter http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1011 Todd Porter Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:35:42 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-1011 Mykel, the thing is that if you voted your conscience for Perot then I do not believe you wasted your vote, because you voted for the person you wanted to be President. I, however, voted for then President George H. W. Bush in that election instead of Perot because I was voting against Bill Clinton and I feel that I wasted my vote. To me voting against someone and not for someone is a waste of a vote. Mykel, the thing is that if you voted your conscience for Perot then I do not believe you wasted your vote, because you voted for the person you wanted to be President. I, however, voted for then President George H. W. Bush in that election instead of Perot because I was voting against Bill Clinton and I feel that I wasted my vote. To me voting against someone and not for someone is a waste of a vote.

]]> By: Mykel http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-1010 Mykel Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:01:10 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-1010 I make it no secret that I like Obama. But things can change in the course of a few months. This will also be the first time I might vote for a Democrat. I did vote for Perot back in 92. What a waste of a vote... I make it no secret that I like Obama. But things can change in the course of a few months.
This will also be the first time I might vote for a Democrat. I did vote for Perot back in 92. What a waste of a vote…

]]> By: Todd Porter http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-997 Todd Porter Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:28:50 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-997 I said that I did not know what they did with the money in my most recent comment in reply to Chris'. I was just assuming that they money could be given to a charity or something. I have read your blog and I agree with your viewpoints on Hillary. I would not and could not vote for her. Pretty much for the same reason I will not and could not vote for John McCain, because I believe they are both wolves in sheeps clothing. I personally do not think that McCain is better than Obama in so many ways. But again these are all personal decisions and thoughts, and obviously we disagree. One thing I am not going to do in this election is look at one single issue and vote solely on that. I said that I did not know what they did with the money in my most recent comment in reply to Chris’. I was just assuming that they money could be given to a charity or something.

I have read your blog and I agree with your viewpoints on Hillary. I would not and could not vote for her. Pretty much for the same reason I will not and could not vote for John McCain, because I believe they are both wolves in sheeps clothing.

I personally do not think that McCain is better than Obama in so many ways. But again these are all personal decisions and thoughts, and obviously we disagree. One thing I am not going to do in this election is look at one single issue and vote solely on that.

]]> By: Katie http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-996 Katie Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:26:53 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-996 How do you know it is not donated to other charities and such? I don;t think Huck wasted his time. he fought the good fight. I find it funny how we support one candidate and then can so easily write them off and say they wasted time and money the minute they step down. McCain is certainly better than Hillary or Obama, but if I was to flip flop and vote outside of my party I'd probably go with obabma. Clinton is a two face dliar and she's already been president. but if you read my blog you already know hw I feel about her. I'll be voting for McCain. Dems and other R's who don;t like Mc Cain can choose to vote for the baby killers. if they want to How do you know it is not donated to other charities and such? I don;t think Huck wasted his time. he fought the good fight. I find it funny how we support one candidate and then can so easily write them off and say they wasted time and money the minute they step down. McCain is certainly better than Hillary or Obama, but if I was to flip flop and vote outside of my party I’d probably go with obabma. Clinton is a two face dliar and she’s already been president. but if you read my blog you already know hw I feel about her.

I’ll be voting for McCain. Dems and other R’s who don;t like Mc Cain can choose to vote for the baby killers. if they want to

]]> By: Todd Porter http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-993 Todd Porter Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:35:20 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-993 Chris, I doubt that they can pocket the money, but what happens to all that money that was donated that went unspent? I guess they could just give it back, but that would seem like a logistical nightmare. I don't know what happens to it, but if it could be donated that would have been the best use of the money than to just (in my opinion) needlessly waste it on a failed campaign. I love ya, too, but Mike was not the best option by far. And that is my opinion, of course. Oh and, GO BLUE! :) Kimmy, I think a wasted vote is a vote that is more voting against someone than for someone. And as you said, we have discussed that. That is another thing that I love about you and us, we can disagree but we still love each other no matter what. :) Chris, I doubt that they can pocket the money, but what happens to all that money that was donated that went unspent? I guess they could just give it back, but that would seem like a logistical nightmare. I don’t know what happens to it, but if it could be donated that would have been the best use of the money than to just (in my opinion) needlessly waste it on a failed campaign. I love ya, too, but Mike was not the best option by far. And that is my opinion, of course.

Oh and, GO BLUE! :)

Kimmy, I think a wasted vote is a vote that is more voting against someone than for someone. And as you said, we have discussed that. That is another thing that I love about you and us, we can disagree but we still love each other no matter what. :)

]]> By: Kimmy http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/comment-page-1/#comment-991 Kimmy Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:58:17 +0000 http://www.thesnuffy.com/2008/03/06/political-thoughts/#comment-991 I really liked Mike Huckabee too. Especially when compared to John McCain. I am stuck because I don't like McCain yet I don't want to vote Democrat because there are too many things I don't agree with. I know we've talked about this, but voting for a 3rd party just seems, to me, to be a waste of a vote. Until a 3rd party can rise up enough to create a reason for a place in the primary and so on, I think we need to put our vote to a candidate who stands a chance to win. I know it means sacrificing some of my "list" but I'd rather see a candidate win whom I agree with 80% than one who I disagree 80%. I really liked Mike Huckabee too. Especially when compared to John McCain. I am stuck because I don’t like McCain yet I don’t want to vote Democrat because there are too many things I don’t agree with. I know we’ve talked about this, but voting for a 3rd party just seems, to me, to be a waste of a vote. Until a 3rd party can rise up enough to create a reason for a place in the primary and so on, I think we need to put our vote to a candidate who stands a chance to win. I know it means sacrificing some of my “list” but I’d rather see a candidate win whom I agree with 80% than one who I disagree 80%.

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